FIG’s response to Timerman

2 Feb

The Falkland Islands’ Government has responded to the latests refusal by a senior Argentine politician to meet with them. The official communique says:

Argentine Foreign Secretary refuses to meet with UK Foreign Secretary William Hague and Falklands Assembly Members. Stanley

The Falkland Islands Government deeply regrets that the Argentine Foreign Secretary Hector Timerman yesterday refused the opportunity to meet with the United Kingdom Foreign Secretary and Members of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly in London next week.

Sadly this refusal comes as no surprise to us, as this is not the first time our attempts at dialogue have been ignored.

In June 2012 at the United Nations in New York President Fernandez de Kirchner was offered a letter asking her to meet with Assembly Members to hear their views and to discuss matters of common interest. Regrettably, she refused to accept it. The letter was subsequently delivered to the Argentine Government, however we have never received a response.

There are various matters of mutual interest that could be discussed, for example the conservation of fish stocks in the waters of the South West Atlantic. The Falkland Islands Government’s desire for normal neighbourly relations is nothing new but this most recent refusal of the Argentine Government to recognise our people or our rights once again demonstrates how one sided this desire is.

We were looking forward to a full and frank exchange of views, and would have taken the opportunity to give Mr Timerman some very direct messages on the unacceptability of Argentina’s actions against the Falkland Islands in recent years. All we ask is that our rights be respected and that we be left in peace to choose our own future and to develop our country for our children and generations to come. It appears that the Government of Argentina is afraid to hear this from the Falkland Islanders themselves.


28 Responses to “FIG’s response to Timerman”

  1. Clematys February 2, 2013 at 2:46 am #

    Aww… how noble of the FOG’s. Would they accept an invitation to go to Argentina to discuss sovereignty issues? Let’s do the whole thing transparently and broadcast the meeting to the whole World. The FOG’s couldn’t surely turn down such an invitation.

    • lordton1955 February 2, 2013 at 6:08 am #

      They wouldn’t. But what are the chances of Argentine issuing an invitation that so publicly recognises the existence of the FIG ??

      • Clematys February 2, 2013 at 7:43 am #

        The invitation wouldn’t extend to the FIG FOG BLOB. It would be just like a British style bilateral meeting, between the Argentinian and British foreign officers, plus the descendents of those who were expelled from the islands in 1833, to be broadcast to the World.

      • lordton1955 February 2, 2013 at 8:59 am #

        Nothing to do with Britain – we’ve handed the job over to the owners 🙂

      • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 9:55 am #

        And it appears they’ve handed the job over to Britain again. So the responsibility is on Britain, not on them.

      • lordton1955 February 3, 2013 at 11:47 am #

        Nope – the are the Falkland Islands GOVERNMENT

      • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

        Tell me who is responsible for foreign affairs, if not Britain. When The British FO wants a bilateral meeting with their Argentinian counterpart, they speak to Timerman and his team, and not at all to the government of any individual Argentinian province.

      • lordton1955 February 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

        Foreign affiars is the responsibility of the FCO in CONSULTATION with the FIG

      • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 3:07 pm #

        They can consult as much as they like, and no one is challenging that, but the presence of third parties at bilateral meetings are up only to the two parties involved. That’s diplomacy, and that is the reason the British government would probably refuse to meet the descendants of those who were expelled in 1833. No one is amused by the latest British diplomatic blunder.

      • lordton1955 February 3, 2013 at 11:10 pm #

        Democracy calls for ALL the parties to be involved. BUT if Argentina does not wish to be involved, that is up to her! No-one was expelled in 1833 who hadn’t been warned in 1829

  2. Ernest Spencer February 2, 2013 at 12:48 pm #

    Clematys, there are various regions of Argentina obtained by conquest since the initial invasion of the Spanish Conquistadores. Will you discuss with those people and affected countries the return of those lands to the native peoples and the countries concerned. I expect not…

    • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 9:53 am #

      In the same way of the British in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. That’s a separate issue, being supervised by another committee at the UN, for the issues of indigenous populations.

  3. Bongo February 2, 2013 at 1:06 pm #


    Oh I see. So you can bring along whoever you like to a meeting but the people who actually live on the islands can’t attend? Well that’s Argentine fairness for you. By all means broadcast it to the world!

    • Trafalgar February 2, 2013 at 2:43 pm #

      Grow up Hector Timerman you stupid fool, if you haven’t got the COURAGE to meet the people who live in the Falklands, then stay away,,,, coward.

    • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 9:47 am #

      Excuse me, but Hague is the one who thinks he can bring along whoever he likes to a bilateral meeting. If he were in any way interested in fairness, he’d also have invited the descendants of those the British expelled from the islands in 1833, as well as the many other connected and interested parties.

      In any case, if the islanders’ representatives told Timerman they would come to the meeting to negotiate sovereignty, I believe they would be mostly welcome.

      The sovereignty dispute will go on. The more you procrastinate negotiations, the worse the dispute will become.

      • lordton1955 February 3, 2013 at 11:46 am #

        Nobody was expelled in 1833. A trespassing garrison from Buenos Aires was asked to leave though. They took the hint!

        As for sovereignty – there’s nothing to negotiate !!

      • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 12:22 pm #

        You see them as a “trespassing garrison” because you think the British empire had a right to go around the World invading and claiming other people’s lands, Argentina sees them as one of their communities, who were expelled from an invading European colonial power, and that is precisely how most of the World sees the situation as well, hence the issue is listed as a typical case of Decolonisation.

      • lordton1955 February 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

        They were trespassing. The Islands had been British since 1765. And in ‘typical’ cases of decolonisation, the territory’s future is decided by the people. Recolonisation has never been an option in decolonisation.

      • Clematys February 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm #

        Argentinians do not want to recolonise any islands. They only want to exercise their due sovereignty.

      • lordton1955 February 3, 2013 at 11:09 pm #

        Argentina does not have any ‘due’ sovereignty over the British Falkland Islands

      • Clematys February 4, 2013 at 3:47 am #

        Yes, it does, and you imperialists will lose your spoils sooner than you think.

      • lordton1955 February 4, 2013 at 8:15 am #

        Both history and international law are against you Clematys. Your fantasy is just that – a fantasy.

      • Clematys February 4, 2013 at 2:04 pm #

        History, geography, international law, public opinion, common sense, etc, are all on Argentina’s side. That’s the reason you spend huge amounts of the British taxpayer’s money to keep a military colonial enclave just off their coast, and that’s the only “argument” sustaining your “de facto” status. However the World is changing fast. You will find it increasingly difficult to finance colonial ambitions and adventures in the South Atlantic, and you’ve had it coming for a long time now.

      • lordton1955 February 4, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

        All on the British side, which is why the Falklands are still British after 248 years. It is Argentina that has the “colonial ambitions”. Fortunately Argentina is doomed to fail.

  4. Bongo February 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm #

    So when is Argentina going to decolonise Patagonia?

    • Fernando February 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm #

      Entre 1820 y 1833 habia poblacion Argentina en las islas Malvinas reconocidas por el gobierno ingles oficialmente!, antes de 1765 habia sido descubiertas por los franceses, luego de 1765 el gobierno ingles reconoce como posesiones españolas las islas malvinas por consiguiente cuando se independiza Argentina esas colonias españolas pasan a Argentina, que usted no reconozca nuestra Soberania sobre las islas por su alto standard de vida desde 1982 a la fecha que le proporciona el gobierno ingles lo entiendo, pero le pregunto, como vivian antes de 1982??, nosotros siempre estuvimos para abastecer de combustible, salud y transporte a las islas dentro de lo posible, somos un pais confiable, precisamente porque nuestra poblacion quiere la paz y la recuperacion por via diplomatica, aparte amamos ese pedazo de tierra que se llama Malvinas!.

    • Bill McGraw February 4, 2013 at 12:31 am #

      The Argentine government say they’re decolonising Patagonia next week, because it’s a special colonial situation and they want to see an end to colonialism in South America. They’ll also be paying reparations to the families of those they killed during their time as coloniser.

      So, in summary, it’s all arranged and they’ll be doing that next week.

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