UN confirms that Britain is not in breach of Resolutions over the Falklands

12 Nov

Contrary to the oft-stated assertions of Argentina’s Government over the issue of the Falkland Islands, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Ban Ki-moon, has confirmed that Britain is not in Breach of any UN Resolutions.

“I don’t think Security Council members are violating relevant UN resolutions. The impression is that people who are living under certain conditions should have access to certain level of capacities so that they can decide on their own future. And that is the main criteria of the main UN bodies. Having independence or having some kind of government in their territories. I don’t think it’s an abuse or violation of relevant UN resolutions, the UN has been working strongly from its very beginning to help non autonomous territories to achieve independence ”, he said in an interview with Tiempo Argentino, a Buenos Aires based newspaper.

The Argentina Government of Cristina Fernandez often alleges that previously issued UN Resolutions have been ignored by the British Government, even though there has not been a UN General Assembly Resolution on the issue since 1988. That called for diplomatic relations between Britain and Argentina to be restored after the break caused by Argentina’s invasion of the Falkland islands in 1982. Relations were renewed in 1989.

The Falkland Islands were first claimed by Britain in 1765. Argentina has attempted to claim them since 1829; a claim based on an unrecognised inheritance from Spain, and geography. Britain fully supports the Falkland Islanders’ right to self-determination as enshrined in the UN Charter.

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37 Responses to “UN confirms that Britain is not in breach of Resolutions over the Falklands”

  1. Don Alberto November 13, 2012 at 11:02 am #

    What is new here?

    Ban Ki-moon said the same more than 2½ years ago.

    Remaining non-self-governing territories must have full freedom of choice, Ban Ki-moon says – 2010.05.19: http://www.speroforum.com/a/33140/Remaining-nonselfgoverning-territories-must-have-full-freedom-of-choice-Ban-says

  2. Giles November 13, 2012 at 1:35 pm #

    It would seem that that hasn’t sunk into Christina’s mind still…

    • Don Alberto November 15, 2012 at 9:38 am #

      It is my impression that, after UN General Secretary Ban Ki-moon’s two consistent statements, now is the time when The Fat Lady sings – it IS over, and what is left is empty dispute for the sake of arguing.

    • lordton1955 November 14, 2012 at 10:51 pm #

      That’s your idea of context ??

      • Clematys November 15, 2012 at 9:58 am #

        That IS the context.

      • lordton1955 November 15, 2012 at 11:55 am #

        There are 3000 Falklanders. They have been there for 180 years. Looks like they are staying. Now THAT is context 🙂

      • Clematys November 15, 2012 at 3:47 pm #

        I don’t think anyone is challenging that. Anyone born on the islands has the right to stay.

      • lordton1955 November 15, 2012 at 11:09 pm #

        Any citizen of the Falkland islands has the right to be involved in their own future.

      • Clematys November 16, 2012 at 3:14 pm #

        They are already involved in their own present and future. What they can’t do is change their past or tug the islands closer to their colonial metropolis.

    • Don Alberto November 14, 2012 at 11:12 pm #

      If old history is within the context, then the Argentine genocide in 1878-79 under general Julio Argentino Roca (El Asesino) of the indigenous people and Argentina’s occupation of Misiones, Formosa and part of Chaco are also within the context together with Argentina’s unprovoked assault on, and subsequent occupation of, the British Falkland Islands in breech of the BINDING Security Council resolution no. 502 of 3 April 1982.

      BTW:
      Which country in the world has liberated most colonies?
      Isn’t it about time the implanted Italian, Spanish, etc. invaders left South America to its rightfull owners?

      • Clematys November 15, 2012 at 9:57 am #

        How many British Americans do you think would be going back to the UK? Probably very few would like to live permanently on a peat bog island that would sink anyway under their weight.

      • Don Alberto November 15, 2012 at 10:54 pm #

        You very conveniently avoided to answer the questions:

        Which country in the world has liberated most colonies?

        Isn’t it about time the implanted Italian, Spanish, etc. invaders left South America to its rightfull owners?

      • Clematys November 16, 2012 at 2:54 pm #

        I have just reminded you that if you apply terms like “implanted” for immigrants living in independent nations, you should also remember the multi-million number of British descendants in the exact same condition. Do you think Little Britain would support the return of a population of at least 500 million more little englanders? South America must be under South American administration in the same way that Europe is under European administration.

      • Don Alberto November 16, 2012 at 3:21 pm #

        Clematys: “South America must be under South American administration”

        How well do you think this is working?

        25% inflation, Arg. pesos impossible to exchange to foreign currency in Argentina, and almost impossible outside – not even fit for toilet paper, too stiff for the purpose; autocracy, rising crime rate, sycophantic judges, ….

      • Clematys November 16, 2012 at 3:30 pm #

        When you understand economic cicles, you know South America is doing well and will get better. It is also among the safest and more peaceful and prosperous places in the whole World.

      • lordton1955 November 16, 2012 at 11:10 pm #

        You appear to be living in a fantasy world.

      • Don Alberto November 17, 2012 at 2:14 am #

        – usually Canada or the US, which Argentines often confuse with South America because they have fled there.

        En un año, 262.000 argentinos solicitaron visas para EEUU
        http://www.losandes.com.ar/notas/2012/11/9/ano-262.000-argentinos-solicitaron-visas-para-eeuu-678727.asp

      • Don Alberto November 19, 2012 at 11:34 am #

        “When you understand economic cicles” [cycles]

        I did spend two years studying national economics under prof. Stevenson – so I have some idea of nat.eco. – Argentina is on the usual once-per-decade-downswing, Brasil has the brakes on, slowing down, etc.

    • Don Alberto November 15, 2012 at 10:50 pm #

      The context is that the Secretary General of the United Nations, Ban Ki-moon, has confirmed that Britain is not in breach of any UN Resolutions and that the peoples on the C24 list have the right decide on their own future.

      What on Earth does the number of countries British have invaded to do with:

      1. the Secretary General of the United Nations

      2. Ban Ki-moon

      3. Britain is not in Breach of any UN Resolutions

      4. The peoples on the C24 list have the right decide on their own future

      ???

      How can the number of countries British have invaded in the past be within that context?

      What is the context, according to you?

      Is it within context to count
      the number of countries Spain has invaded in the past?
      How many countries France has invaded in the past?
      How many Germany has invaded in the past?
      What about the vikings, are they within context?
      The Mongols?
      Japan?

      If so, then how and why?

    • Don Alberto November 15, 2012 at 11:08 pm #

      Clematys, you link to a British newspaper.

      Doesn’t it strike you, that what you see is British self-criticism?

      Where do you see a similar Argentine self-criticism?

      Even the English language newspaper in Argentina, Buenos Aires Herald, dares not use the name “Falkland Islands” in their articles.

      They know that if they did, their office would be invaded by the Argentine Gestapo proxy, AFIP.

      • Clematys November 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm #

        The whole latin american community calls those islands Malvinas, and have being culturally doing so since before the UK invaded them in 1833, when British pirates and privateers were still being supported by the British crown to invade and gain control over Spanish and Portuguese colonial remits. The British can laugh at themselves as much as they want. What they can’t do is gain much sympathy for their colonial and imperial endeavors and ambitions.

      • Don Alberto November 16, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

        The remaining more than 6 billion people in the world call the Falkland Islands “the Falkland Islands “.

        How is all your rambling in context with

        1. the Secretary General of the United Nations

        2. Ban Ki-moon

        3. Britain is not in Breach of any UN Resolutions

        4. The peoples on the C24 list have the right decide on their own future

        ???

        How can the number of countries British have invaded in the past be within that context?

        What is the context, according to you?

        Is it within context to count
        the number of countries Spain has invaded in the past?
        How many countries France has invaded in the past?
        How many Germany has invaded in the past?
        What about the vikings, are they within context?
        The Mongols?
        Japan?

        If so, then how and why?

        Why do you avoid answering inconvenient questions?

  3. Don Alberto November 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm #

    Clematys, once more you very conveniently avoided to answer the questions:

    Which country in the world has liberated most colonies?

    • Clematys November 16, 2012 at 3:23 pm #

      It doesn’t matter how many colonies were liberated. What matters is to put an end to colonialism and the disputes it created. If you can’t persuade the Argentinians that the territory is not theirs, the dispute will continue, and Britain together with the occupied islands will be understandably and further alienated in the whole region.

      • lordton1955 November 16, 2012 at 11:10 pm #

        The Argentines are simply wrong. They do not need to be convinced. The falklanders will choose their own path. And that path does not have to be South American.

      • Don Alberto November 17, 2012 at 2:19 am #

        Precisely.

        As I wrote previously: The Fat Lady sings.

  4. Baguamarsbar November 19, 2012 at 10:49 am #

    “The whole latin american community calls those islands Malvinas,” Actually Clematys
    no,Chilians I know say that they refer to it as ilase Falklands. And im told in southern Chile several bars have Falklands flags pinned up. I dont think they like arg much.

    • Don Alberto November 19, 2012 at 11:36 am #

      You just reminded me that about half my Argentino friends say “d*mned Falklands war” and “Falkland Islands” (NOT “Malvinas”) “- forget them, do something about our REAL problems!”.

  5. malvinas argentinas February 27, 2013 at 8:18 am #

    Then ban ki moon should give back south korea to north korea

  6. John E Smoke March 31, 2013 at 9:59 pm #

    There are not 3000 ´Falklanders´. That is another British lie.

    Also on that interview Ban Ki-Moon declared:

    “I know that the government of Argentina has agreed my good offices to resolve the conflict over Malvinas/Falklands, but I still hope that agreement on the part of the UK”.

    • mrlayback June 7, 2013 at 6:57 pm #

      The UK government made it perfectly clear, they will not negotiate sovereignty without the islanders consent (in which language do they need to repeat this, because the message is clearly not getting through to them in Castellano but the argentine government refused an invite from the people living on the islands purely for the fact they refuse to recognised they exist..

      • mrlayback June 7, 2013 at 7:09 pm #

        BTW John E Smoke… 180 year history, what exactly is the British lie ?? in 1850 Argentina signed a convention agreement called the Arana–Southern Treaty but in 1941 Juan Peron broke the agreement to then begin the Nazi-like BIG lie to cover up economic faults which then passed onto the next generation of Argentines ! Even now the people there are starting to wake up to the fact their government lies to cover up even bigger lies ! trust me I’ve lived here 10 years… anyway !! The Argentine sovereignty claim is weak they know it and United Nation knows it ! otherwise it would of been resolved in the ICJ many years ago ! period ..

    • Biguggy June 30, 2013 at 11:48 pm #

      There is nothing wrong with that.
      In fact in February the UK offered to meet with Timberhead but he did not show up. Not that it would have made much difference because I believe the meeting would have been sharp and not very sweet. Something along the lines of:

      RG’s ‘When are you going to give us/leave/transfer/etc the Islands to us?’

      UK “We are not. Next point please?

      At which point the RG’s get up and walk out.

      Not forgetting that that in spite of Mr Ban Ki-moon’s offer of his good offices he has still in essence said that the Islanders have the right to self-determination, which is something the RG’s have great difficulty in accepting.

  7. gavinjharris January 8, 2014 at 4:49 pm #

    Well that settles that then. Move on.

  8. Mike Cox February 11, 2014 at 8:53 pm #

    To the Argentine El Presedentee.The British Goverment has spoken.The Falkland Islanders Have spoken,NOW the UN secretary general has spoken.The falkland Islands are british falklands islands .The name malvinas will never happen never ever.Thankyou.

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